9/9/2023 0 Comments Avid icon dcommandThen it just used standard, driverless IP over ethernet to communicate. It is a proprietary Digidesign protocol that was baked into Pro Tools at the same fundamental level as pan pots, or send faders, or automation lanes. but Avid decided they didn't want people using them past HD10. If it is the latter, then Avid have actually spent inherently far more time and effort turning these desks off in Pro Tools, then if they just left them be.Įxactly the same thing happened with the Pro Control and Control 24, which use exactly the same Digidesign Ethernet Protocol as the ICONs do in 2022. Have they fixed the HUI bugs that have been in it for 10 years? That is probably a sure giveaway whether it is a recode. Maybe Avid has recoded Pro Tools from the ground up for Apple Silicon. One of the reasons these desks have worked totally fine for so long, across PowerPC - intel, and 32-bit - 64-bit transitions, and so many operating system changes is because they have no drivers. I know it really sucks, but this was to be expected at one point. This would be the same for the c|24 as it's end of support date was 2012. This is exactly what has happened on apple side of things. They would still work as long as some major changes, example a complete change of os, would happen, and they have been quite upfront about this. Which means that they were not going to write new drivers for them. I know this won't be popular, but Avid did announce the end of support for the icons blue for 2014 and the Black's for 2018. I love to be on the cutting edge of new tech and anything related to mixing, but it has to make life better in some way. Having said that, if they one day got smart and should make a new module for the S6 that made mixing have a better work flow, maybe.įor me, the S6 has been a long yawn. Well, I'll use my 40 fader D-command as long as possible, even switching to a PC if needed and stay at that for the rest of my career I'm 55. They need to make a return on their investment in developing the S6 and will try to force us to move up. Unfortunately though, I don't think there's many Avid people listening to us. And for how many years were the owners suffering the growing pains of the S6? I am so glad I didn't go that route. Back to the S6, every combination of moving the modules around is just a compromise in ergonomics compared to what is already a great solution with the D-command. I've even made a great default for Fabfilters ProQ3 that is laid out perfectly with the icon controllers. The knobs are always in the same place and do what you expect them to do, as long as the plugin developers abide by the layout, which many still do. OK, the S6 has some colors and some fancy display thingies that aren't THAT useful, and it can do some interesting things with grouping faders, but it drops the ball for me completely when it comes to ergonomics and "having what I need in front of me." One of the most brilliant things with the Icons is the EQ and Dynamics panels. I'm still waiting for any Avid rep to prove me wrong. the S6 is not a better controller when it comes to the real world needs of mixing, hands on eq, dynamics, sends, faders, VCAs, "what I need in front of me all the time." Not to mention the flimsy feeling of the S6. Perhaps that is just part of the evolution, but I totally expect the same will happen with the end of ICON support. They skip the hardware, and end up investing 1/10th the amount in Pro Tools compared to the previous decade. So many users just never seemed to make the transition from old hardware to new hardware at all. I feel like the catalyst for that change was the dumping of TDM hardware. Those kinds of comments would have been unheard of 15 years ago. He even suggested that users start learning new DAWs as soon as they can, so they don't have to do it under the considerable pressure of delivering a job for a client. Interestingly, George Massenburg made a comment on Gearspace a few weeks back about how he now uses four DAW applications regularly. Every year something comes up that has people saying all these people are going to leave PT as a result, but they never do. They still do work on Rosetta and on Windows, so it won't be as big a deal for some as it is for others. Equipment evolves and people move on, it's great they've run for this long after becoming non supported hardware. If your business is based around Pro Tools and working with other studios like the post industry is, you're not gonna switch to Luna. It's a great effort for what it does, but you can do an awful more with Eucon. Id switch to an S1 Dock combo rather than V-control.
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